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  July Broadcast Scriptural Error- FDS/Helper Fail.

  by Hold Me-Thrill Me in

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  2. friends

  he has inadvertently moved the timing of the beginning of the last days to the future.

  this kind of scriptural error is the direct result of superficial bible reading.

  according to luke 21, first comes the persecution then the wars, earthquakes, food shortages, fearful sights etc.

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  The current GB is like a preteen trying on her older sister's prom dress. Problem is they are much shorter than their predecessors and their breasts are non-existent.

  Small men who will never fill the shoes of Fred Franz or Nathan Knorr. Not that those men were by any means free from error, no. But at least they were able to give the appearance of being real. Splane and company cannot even do that.

  They are cartoon caricatures unable to give even the appearance of being Christ's disciples. Jokers, liars, false brothers, murderers who though knowing their history continue to do what is in their best interests! They turn away from the lessons that should have been learned and sin even more than their predecessors.

  They have made an idol of themselves and have made money their god. They have no fear of God or love for the struggling brothers and sisters in the congregations around the world. They put on smiling faces at assemblies and conventions. They say "loving" things and embrace those who approach them in idolizing waiting lines.

  But in truth, they are filthy men who do not deserve the love of those who would give their lives just on their word alone. Filthy men, not worth the oxygen God provided. Men who imitate the scribes and pharisees of Jesus' day. Men who would have put Christ to death if he dared to prove their religion faulty. Men who demean God's Name. Men who are hypocrites and white washed graves.

  As Jesus said, by their fruits we will know them. The Governing Body produces poisonous fruit by making themselves God's mouthpiece. A position no man holds but Christ!

  Frank
  
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  Dawn Bible Students Association and Ken Fernets

  by Hold Me-Thrill Me in

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  the dawn bible students association has a problem.

  ken fernets, when on the phone, shows his true colors to women who call.

  he engages in flirtatious speech.

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  So what do you feel could be done to start reforms and get the WT closer to Biblical and mainstream Christian doctrine?

  Reform must be initiated from the inside.

  The Watchtower publishing house is a closed fortress which will resist all outside efforts to force the necessary changes it must make. In fact, it is likely that forums such as this one have at times thwarted the efforts of some on the inside to advance reasonable changes. The reason being that those in command will not easily bow their backs to outside opposers even if sound scriptural arguments are put forth by them. These men, stubborn, and at times mean spirited, will protect their territory and history even if it brings down millions more in the Organization.

  Reform must come from the few near the top who, being fully aware that something is very wrong, have prayed to God for his help. Those who will trust in Jehovah and together do what is necessary to finally bring Christ into Bethel. Until Christ's teachings reign at Bethel the Watchtower publishing house is no different than any other Christian church including the Roman Catholic church. They are all groping in the dark because they do not truly follow Christ but rather men.

  On forums such as this, heat is applied and re-applied in order to heighten the stress upon the Governing Body. To make them as vulnerable and weak as it is possible to do in order that they are continually and increasingly kept off balance. In order that should some on the inside decide to attempt to push the idol off its pedestal it would be ready to fall.

  So truly, we all ride tandem toward a shared goal. Those few on the inside cannot do what is being done on the outside and those on the outside cannot do what is possible to do on the inside.

  The Governing Body system will fall!

  Frank
  
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  July Broadcast Scriptural Error- FDS/Helper Fail.

  by Hold Me-Thrill Me in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  he has inadvertently moved the timing of the beginning of the last days to the future.

  this kind of scriptural error is the direct result of superficial bible reading.

  according to luke 21, first comes the persecution then the wars, earthquakes, food shortages, fearful sights etc.

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  Anyone who has carefully read and compared the accounts would see that at significant points they do not match up. But sadly, Anthony Morris, not being a good Bible student, chose the wrong account to highlight.
  

  Why those differences exist should be crystal clear to the 7 men who are leading Jehovah's Witnesses to their spiritual doom...but then again maybe not.

  The Governing Body and most of their Helpers are truly Biblical illiterates. They do not have God's spirit.

  Frank
  
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  July Broadcast Scriptural Error- FDS/Helper Fail.

  by Hold Me-Thrill Me in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  he has inadvertently moved the timing of the beginning of the last days to the future.

  this kind of scriptural error is the direct result of superficial bible reading.

  according to luke 21, first comes the persecution then the wars, earthquakes, food shortages, fearful sights etc.

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  Brother Anthony Morris has made a critical scriptural error in the July Broadcast. He has inadvertently moved the timing of the beginning of the last days to the future. This kind of scriptural error is the direct result of superficial Bible reading. He is poorly educated in Bible research. This from a man who claims to be of the anointed and demands that all Jehovah's Witnesses follow his "suggestions" on all things spiritual.

  In his July Broadcast brother Morris addresses the topic of persecution. He asks his audience (at about 9:20) to read Luke 21:12-19, but first before actually reading the scripture he said this:

  "We might mention that here Jesus was not referring to what would happen back then in the first century, this was a prophecy about the future. He was describing what would transpire now before the the end of the evil system under Satan’s control." (emphasis added)

  Then he reads Luke 21:12,
  

  “But before all these things happen, people will lay their hands on you and persecute you, handing you over to the synagogues and prisons. You will be brought before kings and governors for the sake of my name." (emphasis added)
  

  Brother Morris has forgotten the first rule of understanding the Bible- CONTEXT!

  What are "all these things" referred to in verse 12? All the things which the persecution would precede? Brother Morris, read it carefully again: "But before all these things happen..."

  The "things" Jesus was referring to are the things he had just spoken of: (verses 9-11)
  

  "Furthermore, when you hear of wars and disturbances, do not be terrified. For these things must take place first, but the end will not occur immediately.” Then he said to them: “Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be great earthquakes, and in one place after another food shortages and pestilences; and there will be fearful sights and from heaven great signs."

  Then Jesus went on to say: "But before all these things happen, people will lay their hands on you and persecute you, handing you over to the synagogues and prisons. You will be brought before kings and governors for the sake of my name."

  According to Luke 21, first comes the persecution then the wars, earthquakes, food shortages, fearful sights etc.

  But Brother Morris says: "We might mention that here Jesus was not referring to what would happen back then in the first century, this was a prophecy about the future. He was describing what would transpire now before the the end of the evil system under Satan’s control." (emphasis added)

  If you are correct, Brother Morris, if the persecution Jesus described is to happen "now" before the end of the system then what Jesus said in the previous verses: “Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be great earthquakes, and in one place after another food shortages and pestilences; and there will be fearful sights and from heaven great signs" is YET IN THE FUTURE because the persecution occurs, first, before all these things!
  

  Your poor Bible reading skills have inadvertently moved the signs of the time of the end into the future. What else have you misunderstood? Time will tell.

  Just keep broadcasting.

  Frank
  
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  Watchtower's Works

  by Hold Me-Thrill Me in

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  they take our trust our love our youth our family our friends our life our hopes our happiness our children our parents our vitality our minds our hearts.

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  then they kill us.

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  They take our trust our love our youth our family our friends our life our hopes our happiness our children our parents our vitality our minds our hearts.

  Then they Kill Us.
  
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  About The GB-7

  by coalize in

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  just asking about this "new light" of the 7 member of the governing body (the gb-7) being the fds.

  what is the point?.

  what biblical "argument" have they given about that ?

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  The Governing Body proclaimed themselves the Slave because they believe themselves to be anointed, or claim to be anointed, and put in charge of Jehovah's organization. The reality of course is that they are just ordinary men charged by other ordinary men to lead a religion.

  Small, sad, men who do not know their left from their right. Men who have no spiritual clothes and must rely on their Helpers to blindly lead and point the way.

  By the way, the monthly JW Broadcast is late.
  
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  What Road Would You Choose---IF?

  by John Aquila in

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  2. experiences

  say you could go back in time to when you were 15 years old.

  no watchtower in your life.

  but the experience you have now you could keep.

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  I would not choose any other road than the one I am on at this moment.
  
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  Looking Back In Retrospect To 1975...

  by titch in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  greetings, folks: so, it's been 40 years since 1975. and, if you were actively involved with the witnesses back then, the mindset of many was, that by early autumn of 1975, it would mark the anniversary of 6000 years of human existence.

  and, the hope was then, that it would mark the start of the 1000-year of christ, from the heavenly realm.

  but, looking back now, 40 years ago, in june of 1975, only 3 more months remained until early autumn.

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  1975 was the work of men who believed they could predict the end. They disregarded Christ's admonitions and did what they themselves thought was good. Sad men who will in the resurrection be humiliated.
  
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  Captive virgins, polygamy and sex slaves: What marriage would look like if we actually followed the Bible

  by Captain Schmideo2 in

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  a friend linked this on his facebook page, sharing:http://www.rawstory.com/2015/06/captive-virgins-polygamy-and-sex-slaves-what-marriage-would-look-like-if-we-actually-followed-the-bible/one quote that stood out for me:"granted, sometimes even decent people do get sucked into a sort of text worship that i call bibliolatry, and bible worship can make a persons moral priorities as archaic and cruel as those of the iron age tribesmen who wrote the texts.

  (i once listened, horrified, while a sweet, elderly pair of jehovahs witnesses rationalized the old testament slaughter of children with the same words nazis used to justify the slaughter of jewish babies.

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  Did you read the rest of my post? Do you have a reply on that?
  
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  IMPORTANT TOOLS for parents who are Ex-J-Dubs

  by TerryWalstrom in

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  nobody is better at explaining deep subjects and making learning exciting and fun than isaac asimov.. keep this list (and links) for use in getting your school age kids accurately informed about science and developing a keen and rational mind.. isaac asimov's "science fact" masterpieces :.

  how we found out about microwaves - isaac asimov.

  how we found out beginning of life - isaac asimov.

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  An open mind seeks to examine all views and possibilities. An open mind is not restricted to one view or possibility. An open mind is not settled with clinging to what they believed yesterday or today. An open mind is free from fear. An open mind does not follow anyone.
  

  An open mind is never content to simply "know" but rather to continually seek to know even when the knowing is uncomfortable or unacceptable. Even when the knowing destroys one's firm beliefs or disbelief. An open mind is not fixed.